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Chantelle Broninger 0:13:13

Hi I'm Chanta Broninger and I'm going to bring something to you that you might not like to hear but I hope it will grab your attention Oh God I read somewhere that DC Blocks is bringing an undersea cable landing station OK that's one thing but I continued reading and it says and data center campus So reading Mall is 20 acres a facility of less than 100,000 square feet at the beginning And according to the city from what I heard it's a low impact project that would keep the water usage mostly to minimum like restrooms and basic staff needs and that would operate quietly uh except some occasional generator testing OK so that's What I read the city bill is now I I saw something else on the Internet I saw some complaints of people who live in areas where um data centers were established and there was clearly a problem of water so here's the article that grabbed my attention The sacred cost of Google's data centers is billions of gallons of water to cool servers A reason that Google was guaranteed 1 million gallons per day to cool the data center and up to 5 million per day if it hits project milestones So something else I find is Google considers its It's water use Proprietary trade secret and bars even public officials from disclosing the company's consumption that kind of bothers me but information has leaked out sometimes through legal battles with local utilities and consumption groups So in 2019 alone Google requested or granted more than 2.3 billion gallon water for data centers in three different states according to public records posted online and legal filings So whereas you are elected or appointed council members and mayor are acting as a gatekeeper You came into office with a vision for the city Now it's the time to wonder if you don't deal With Google or more precisely DC blocks needs some adjustment based on truth rather than hopes concerning the amount of water required to cool the

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Dennis Socolo 0:17:05

Hi my name is Dennis Socolo I live in the F section of Palm Coast for 14 years and I'm gonna be talking about your ordinance on short-term rentals It is not working OK See I lived here 14 years I never had to call the cops once since March 14 times on a VRBO behind me And you would have never known it was a VRBO unless I finally went to Barbara and complained and they had no license until the end of June And I'm getting woke up still and you have no way of knowing what's a VRBO and what's not because I know that there's more than 275 Homes in Palm Coast In my neighborhood alone there's 6 brand new ones and I'm sure they're not registered OK it's getting to be like the wild west all it does is it decrease property values alright when you go fishing And you catch the wrong fish and you get caught you lose your license If you're driving you speed you can lose your license There's no penalty for these people 14 times since March I've gotten woke up and then also during the day I have my grandchildren in the pool The people decide to play some rap music with obscenities and profanities in it I have to bring my grandchildren out of the pool and in-house so they don't hear that crap This is out of hand It's going to come to a head and they have to be penalized And if you people don't penalize them the lawyer will penalize them and probably the town will get dragged in there too It's just ridiculous It's outrageous You've ruined my life I'm 70 years old If I have to move and it costs me $10,000 I'll spend $15,000 on suing somebody first It's ridiculous My nerves are shot My wife's nerves are shot It's affecting my health You have to stop this crap It's insane I'm telling you you got more than 275 because I got 5 new ones on my block And I don't even know if they're registered That's not my job Your job is to regulate them Code enforcement Poor Barbara is doing the best she can but her hands are full on both sides Where you think that she can handle this too is insane All right I can show you and I can ride my bicycle around a two-mile route around my house And I got at least 30 different code violations There's people moving in They never get this piece of paper I got this piece of paper 14 years ago when I moved here This is rules and regulations ordinances when you can mow your when you can mow your lawn and stuff like that They don't give this out anymore I went to the front office and asked For one you know what she said to me we don't do that anymore We do it all online Well guess what People don't go online and look at it That's why VRBOs have to post their stuff on the wall because when they sign up for a VRBO they're not going to go on the internet and look at the rules and regulations of the town Thank you Thank you sir Can we get Follow up and get his address

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Jeannie Duarte 0:20:20

Jeannie Duarte yesterday you voted to approve Yesterday I'm sorry You've recently voted to approve a mileage rate up and over the rollback rate Well according to the Ron DeSantiss our military rate is supposed to go down If it remains the same or going up then you are taxing us on unrealized gains Yesterday I attended a ribbon cut ribbon cutting for wastewater treatment plant 2 which is right next to water treatment plant 3 located southwest of the Matanza traffic circle off US 1 near the loop road for the westward expansion As Sam Greco stated the loop Road is not a state project and the funds in excess of $115 million were allocated and are there for use though the contract DRI clearly showed that the funds were lobbied unethically and should be reallocated for the wastewater treatment plant 1 Many residents who have been carefully following were unaware that wastewater treatment plant 2 had even reached its completion though it's reported to be 3 years late So why does it show up on our 2025 budget that has yet to be approved with a whopping $30 million price tag $10 million over the apparent proposed budget We should have been celebrating the ribbon cutting for wastewater treatment plant one but it's still in disrepair and it's state mandated to be done by 2028 Then yesterday I went to a meeting hosted by acting city manager and vice mayor to meet with two local seawall builders Why the two I don't know I was invited by a resident who stated that it was not a closed door meeting and encouraged me to attend As I am a resident I have communicated with those seawall builders for quite some time concerning more affordable options that would not compromise the integrity of properties and the canal However I was denied access to this meeting and escorted to the elevator I was told it was by invitation only that Though there was another resident who was not invited that was able to attend this was a violation of my First Amendment rights to speak and be informed On top of that code enforcement was in attendance I assume to cite citizens to replace their seawalls or else these walls are not cheap We're looking at around $50,000 for an 80-foot span Once again I ask where are the funds this community has been putting aside for the past 45 years to maintain their canals And once again I still not have received the missing budget pages for May 6th for the May 6th meeting and the deadline for the Doge was on the 21st The documents I received from you were incomplete and unsigned So what's the update on that Thank you ma'am

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CD Rossell 0:23:41

OK the better on the pier where they were digging and they hit an electrical line That's an 811 call that should have been made and wasn't June 16 1976 I was in the center With a fuel line explosion that took out a city plot and proved that Vapor bombs can work Fuel vapor bombs can work Took out a whole city block I was there 3 minutes after it went off I couldn't do anything about it then but 811 was created and happened 15 years later We need to make sure that anybody that's digging Gets that call done and has a survey done proper survey because you can fix property but you can't fix life for 30 casualties in that event So it's very familiar in my opinion you can go look it up uh Venice Boulevard Culver City A fuel line explosion Anyway and we're coming up on the 50th anniversary of it so it's Very close to me about 811 Because it doesn't need to happen and the fire department went down there and those guys are not hooked up for FPNL work OK They're hooked up for fire and It's dangerous for them to go down on an electric Like Anyway that's something I'd like to follow up on And then on this the uh I'd like to get together with you guys on it you know talk about what I dug up and what I know about it and we can make the wastewater treatment plant literally almost self-sustaining And you should have it in your email He got a chance to read it because you know I sent it like All right thank you sir

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James DW 0:25:33

James DW session uh it's raining Flooding issues continue Um it's just you know Jeremy's problem he's got a big problem They try to fix it and created more problems Now we just read about this 85-year-old woman who's kitchen flooded 3 times from new construction next to her because it's too high Um supposedly someone on council or someone's on council would try to look into it and prevent it but it's it's still getting she's still getting flooded So my concern is that they're building next to me now and I'm worried You corrected the code months ago so the builders can only go 10 inches maximum above the adjusting property I still think it's too high As I drive new new construction I see houses that seem to be level or maybe 2 to 3 inches higher than the next with proper drainage I called the builder of the house Next to me and talked to the construction manager and also Gabe in the building department They all confirmed that the house is going next to me is going to be 3 inches higher than my FFE The problem is it looks much higher than 3 inches No one seems to be concerned about it My street floods now both sides of my driveway because water can't get out to the end of the cul-de-sac to the ravine The leading Lynn Stevens and her crew came out and assessed the problem and are planning to correct it so I thank her for that But now adding another house That may not be draining properly is an issue for me I'm getting minor flooding already in my yard just because the property construction isn't draining uh it's not graded properly So I'm recommending again that you change that code to be less than 10 inches difference between adjacent properties 3 inches 2 to 3 inches or even level should be the norm We got plenty of flooding problems You have headaches I don't want any headaches I even tried calling the owner of the new property They don't answer the phone I wanted to warn them that if we have flooding issues the builder will just say we did it according to code It's not our problem It's gonna be the owner's problem to fix the issue I don't wanna have to don't wanna have to put anybody through legal process when it should be done right from the start I had a similar issue at my previous house Flooding neighbor behind me contacted the builder code office same reply Your property complies with code reply so I had to dig a slope out and build a block wall to prevent flooding to the property behind me The police changed that code so we don't have any more problems now Car noise If you do something about car noise these intentional backfiring and loud mufflers It's it's it's driving everybody crazy And by the way the dirt from the adjacent property that they're building is washed down into my swale and into my culvert which is just cleaned a few months ago So I gotta clean that babble again So please address this flooding issue Reduce that code to way below 10 inches if you will Thanks Thank you sir

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Mr Stone 0:28:13

Mr Stone I know Boy I think I've seen everything And we went through the Why I When Mike was cleared through the ethics committee false accusation False Now we have a situation and one of the reasons why I'm bringing this up my dad was the biggest lawyer in New York City and Vegas He opened up most of the hotels on the legal side And Maya Lansky was my godfather So I learned a lot on the legal side of business but this city has been dirty for 13 years As long as I've been here We have a councilman that 1/3 of his contributions What's been the developers or the small electric shop and he could stand up and say it was me But when it held me closed What someone did you also Someone was asked to be a witness And she's gonna be running in the council But search and see And she was escorted out by 2 people on this council And it's a joke Mr John And read the papers locally Go to Daytona Ask them what they think about Palcoats Go to Warming Beach Ask them what they think about Palm Cove Mr Morris came in as a mayor and he said he wanted to clean up the the corruption in this city We had it passed with Dao He had it passed with A and Clover's neck The cult of corrupporation for corruption in this city needs to stop And let me give you good advice When someone's running check their background You're gonna be shocked Doctor thank you sir Yes ma'am

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Sharon Resnick 0:30:29

My name is Sharon Resnick and I've been a resident in Palm Coast for decades and I'm here to oppose the sale of the Palm Harbor Golf Course The Palm Harbor Golf course has had generational impact on our community and has created generational memories for families that reside in our city as well as for tourists that visit here year after year as my father used to do The selling of the Palm Harbor golf course would be a Travesty and would be one of the worst decisions any council has ever made in the history of Palm Coast Cities are supposed to make people's lives better by providing open green spaces recreational facilities and community gathering places Cities are not profit making operations They are designed to benefit the residents of that city to create safety infrastructure health and harmony We all know what will happen if the Gulf Of course gets sold it will ultimately end up another housing development $1.8 million for 140 acres is highly suspicious It is so undervalued that it raises all kinds of red flags and the feeling that there must be multi-level deals going on behind the scenes $1.8 million is certainly not going to have generational impact on our city That money will Be gone in a hot minute Selling this extremely valuable irreplaceable public asset for short term artificial financial gain sacrifices long term community benefits Once sold it can never be recovered It will be gone forever They're not making any more open land in the heart of Palm Coast The golf course serves as a vital recreational environmental and social asset It Serves as an important open green space for our vibrant local wildlife deer eagles osprey water birds wild turkey otters turtles and fish It also plays a vital and important role in the management of storm waters Privatization or redevelopment would lead to irreversible environmental harm The council members should cease and desist immediately Any plans To sell lease or privatize Palm Harbor Golf Course Let's get new management implement new operational strategies for new streams of income I have several ideas to share for another time The Palm Harbor golf course should not be sold and should remain a municipal golf course in perpetuity Please protect what makes our city livable inclusive and green Thank you very much Thank you Ms

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Muffin 0:33:31

Good evening My name's Muffin and I live in the art section I'm here to speak to you about the aquatic center Um this is the earliest time we've ever seen it close on Sundays Um my concern is that the uh families are unable to use the Aquatic Center on Sunday Um I think that in the past we've seen it open until at least uh Labor Day Um I know it's managed I believe by the Parks and Recs uh department and I believe it's owned by the public school Um I'm not quite sure of all the details um but I do see multiple schedules on the website of it being open Mondays and Wednesdays until 6:30 until like October 15th I also see it open till 7:30 p.m. until on or around September 30th On water fitness programs for exercise I know myself my daughter and a number of our friends Use this facility for exercise I also know that a number of the insurance companies use this in their gym riders for uh exercise silver sneakers and uh the closure of this on Sundays is causing you know one less day of exercise for those of us who work full time for those of us who have a family that you know go to school and also uh for those of us who Enjoy the pool on the weekends but I would like to Ask you all to reconsider closing it early on Sunday and keeping it open later in the year on Sunday and I'll yield my time Thank you ma'am Yes sir

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Daniel Pope 0:35:23

Good evening I'm Daniel Pope local business owner golf course operator and proud Palm Coast resident Many of you may know me as the owner of the Purple Donkey down on the beach but I've spent most of my career in golf owning and revitalizing struggling golf courses across the country I graduated valedictorian in golf course management and have built a business around turning underperforming assets into the thriving community pillar I love this city I'm raising my 4 kids here and I want to be Palm Coast and I want to see Palm Coast reach its full potential Palm Harbor Golf Club has that potential It could be more than just a golf course It should be more than just a golf course It should be a profitable vibrant year-round hub that residents are proud of Right now it's losing the city money each year That can stop today Here's my proposal Let my company take over management I'm not asking the city for a dime I'm offering to take the financial burden completely off your shoulders And to return and in return provide the city with a guaranteed check every single year To be clear Troon and loopers would stay in place They've done a great job and there's no need to disrupt that My focus is on turning the golf course Around operations marketing events community engagement I know how to run this golf course profitably and more importantly how to make it matter to the community again Take Palm Coast VIP for example We're on track to raise over half a million dollars for local schools and charities with this card It's already generating excitement in the community with schools and tons of local businesses signed on The energy is real And growing every day I see Palm Harbor becoming part of the same kind of uplift Youth clinics school tournaments charity scrambles creating real value for real families right here in Palm Coast My team's in place My plan's ready All I need is your green light to move forward Let's stop the financial bleed today and start building something great together Thank you for your time I look forward to serving Paul Thank you very much

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Darlene Shelley 0:37:37

Good evening council Darlene Shelley live in the K section I don't have anything prepared but as I'm listening to the other speakers um tell you their concerns for our community um common thread comes up of safety health and welfare no matter what the complaint it seems that is the the root concern um when we sit here and listen to the ordinances we're assured that the proposed project is going to not be uh Burden to the local residents or affect in a negative way our safety health and welfare

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Scott 0:40:41

My name is Scott I live in the R section December will be 25 years Uh 25 years I didn't park my work van in the driveway I put a fence around my AC unit so you couldn't see it from the street played by all the rules Now I have this for a vision on my patio That's total loss of private my uh private with the use of private fence Somebody from the 2nd floor can see right into my bedroom my kitchen My living room Who's gonna pay for my uh putting trees up or whatever I'm sure this builders when he gets done if you've ever done research on this builder it's kind of a shady deal too Um I'll put like 3-foot twigs up and call them trees and that'll be the end of things It'll be up to me to try to get some privacy back I don't know what else we're supposed to do You know you play by the rules and this is what happens to you So the next time you're on your patio having a beer or coffee in the morning imagine looking out your backyard and having that staring at you My neighborhood's established 90% of the homes are 1520 years old Now my and my neighbors are gonna have to deal with it Cause nobody else is going to And we're all retired so we ain't got money coming out of our pockets Thank you Yes sir Can someone in the back follow up with this gentleman and find out because I couldn't see that picture of this

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Carol Stoughton 0:42:34

Carol Stoughton Palm Coast Florida retired nurse 87 years old I am here to let the people know what's been going on over the past 8 years We had a mayor that all he did was push for development and have his picture taken with a gold shovel So when the mayor got elected they all went haywire so they had to organize people in the Brown Building in community relations and HR And then they got the newspapers and then they decided to get the observer and next door and let's censure this guy Oh censure this guy because he's doing his job for the people He's looking out for infrastructure he's looking out for development the roads the crumbling of the roads and so they push and they push And so then you got Mr Garbaro who never would have been elected I mean appointed I'm sorry that's right he was appointed and if it wasn't for Mr Duffy he should have done his job He never should have let him take and run up to that seat and take his appointment because it was all based on an ethics violation It's time that we saw the services of another law firm because had Mr Duffy done his job he wouldn't be sitting there Now all of a sudden after Mr Gamarra closed all his cars now he's leaving the area and he's gonna run for Congress And then he advertises of his brigadier title which he is a first rank Person and I looked that up and it's to be called a brigadier general is a one-star general I commend you for your service but I don't think it's proper that you go and advertise all about it OK And then Mr Gammaro he don't pay taxes on his house on Ryecliffe Because he recently just got a total disability Oh but President Trump through his father and through legislators appointed him a brigadier general which is great Now he can run for the Congress What we have here is people earning salaries were given out The city manager is making over $230,000 We need to find out what these people are doing in the back rooms to earn their $100,000 worth of salary We need to see how hard they work The people that work the hardest here get paid the least and those are the people that keep this city running beautifully And I was here in July When Ms Ponteri screamed and yelled they took it off the cameras so that we couldn't see it She screamed and yelled and was practically spitting in the mayor's face All she does is chastise him and criticize him I can tell you something The mayor was never asked to resign from the position I'm sure

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Jessica Voorhees 0:54:56

Good evening everybody I am Jessica Burges I am a Palm Coast citizen since 2017 Uh little by little I realized how much I love this city My two daughters are growing up here They are almost teenagers both of them And I'm a Peruvian architect Uh I've been working in several places in construction and in industry and when I realized that the vacancy here and the drainage committee Uh I realized that oh why not do it And I'm here I've been with all the team Trying to find out solutions for the people and as a team with Lynn too that she has been awesome And It's just what I wanna say today and I offer myself as a member after being as an alternate

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Janie Duarte 0:58:18

Janie Duarte I'm concerned about CDDs As I understand it's an extension of governance in our community and I think we have enough of that Uh I think we need to relook at this opportunity Thank you Thank you ma'am Anyone else for public comment Seeing no one come forward we'll bring it back to the diocese Miss Cook if you could please call the vote before you start that quasi-judicial So just do ex a parte communications real quick Anybody have any ex parte communication concerning this CDD I had one resident reach out to me about a concern but it won't affect my vote Um I I also I also had a couple of residents contact me but won't concern my vote Anyone else Ms Cookie Carbo Vice Mayor Pontieri Yes Council Member Gambaro Yes Council Member Miller Yes Council Member Sullivan yes Mayor Norris no The motion passes 4 to 1 We're moving on to item 5 ordinance um city attorney Thank you Mr Mayor We have another 2025 ordinance Airport conference Fire Station 26 land exchange small scale comprehensive plan amendment application 6154 Yes sir Mr Hanson is gonna be the lead on is the lead on this Yes sir Um one second I'll get the PowerPoint up for you sir

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Kurt Wimpe 1:35:21

Good evening I'm Kurt Wimpe I'm with Alliance Engineering I'm a civil engineer I've been working on this particular property for approximately 6 years I'm very familiar with the city of Palm Coast I've lived here for 10 years been working here since uh 2 2000 excuse me Um Uh there were many questions um asked and I'd like to address those as much as I can as a civil engineer I also have with me Mr Brian Hercules from SRM Concrete Um he's gonna address a lot of questions for you I'm not that expert but he is I had dinner with him tonight He knows everything Um it it should be very good Um as far as the site if you would just go backwards uh actually hold there for a second So this is kind of the if you look at the pink area on this exhibit right here this is the potential development area in the pink OK We've already gone through the process complete process with the city and with the Saint John's River Water Management District and all the agencies and permitted this as a split flex warehouse which is what is across the cul-de-sac from us It was a part that Part uh large warehouse and then part car condo So I had those three different uses and actually I don't think that was reflected in the trips um uh exactly um so I can talk about the traffic in a second but that that pink area is generally the area that can be developed and all wetland impacts have been done Uh the the the if you I want you to go back to your environmental exhibit just for a second because I want to talk about that Um so with this application there is no further wetland impacts There was only fringe impacts with the previous development and there's no new impacts because there's plenty of room on the site to develop This exhibit here shows you the wetlands in green Um there were Those are almost all of that is remaining Um there was just fringe to kind of nip a couple of the edges of that Um the blue area that's shown there that was um uh supposed flood plain that was um proved false It wasn't floodplain because the actual topography those lines are you know in the floodplain maps are kind of big picture Once you survey the property you realize oh it's above that floodplain and so that was taken out A ClomarF has been applied for and and received So that's that's no longer an issue either Um the wellheads as you can see in the yellow dots uh we took those into consideration had a lot of um conversation with staff about that Um as far as our well that would be proposed for this application it's near the cul-de-sac and it is a very small use as far as a uh CUP a consumptive use permit Um they don't even start to really look at that until 100,000 gallons uh a day So it's very small Um we've talked to experts uh in hydrology about the wells and the strata of uh uh surficial aquifer and stuff like that They feel like it's it's gonna be just fine And and the district will look at that and the city's consultant like

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Brian Hercules 1:40:16

my name is Brian Hercules I'm the land manager and uh business development manager for SRM Concrete Colling Thank you so much for allowing me to be here tonight and represent our company and our desire to do business in your community Couple things real quick that I wanted to point out Misrepresentation of a couple of numbers that I've heard coming through the the channel here you talked about 1400 plants We're actually the largest uh concrete producer in the United States today for that There are companies larger than us uh I won't name those that have an international presence but as a US family owned business we are the large But we only operate about 600 plants in 23 states not 14 Uh the other thing that uh was mentioned uh on the jobs I did respond to an email I guess to you today Uh what I gave him is our startup number Uh we anticipate a startup of about 10 to 12 people at this plant Our average salaries in the plant are $75,000 to $100,000 plus benefit as we grow that business as a startup business starting new uh we would anticipate getting somewhere to 18 to 20 jobs Uh that's kind of a peak number for us on one of the plant operations So uh I've got a presentation here that if uh I could get this uh so let me start right there with our products Uh we're in the concrete batch business We're in the pump business of concrete We're in a block business We actually build blocks We have a couple of block plants and then we're also in the aggregate business When we talk about aggregates that's quarries Uh we own 27 or 28 quarries today that we supply our own rock sand those type of materials Uh the next The value of a plant uh when you look at an average plant we'll be putting a Stevens plant here a new Stevens plant um that's an investment between the plant itself and the batch house that we'll build somewhere between 12 and $15 million and you take into consideration the cost of the land uh that's gonna put us at $18 to $20 million in the investment just in the plant here on your uh location Uh we talked about some other expenses Uh we'll then invest about 7 to $8 million in equipment uh that'll be the uh cement trucks a loader those kind of things on the site uh that will be added to that I talked about the jobs somewhere between 20 and 30 is our average on some of our larger plant uh and then the salary rate Next sustainability that's very important to us and I'll get into some of the information as I get into this presentation and answer some of the questions had about sustainability but water conservation is very big for us Uh we use state of the art dust suppression and we're gonna talk about some things tonight and I'll show you the equipment and the the numbers comes from the manufacturer I didn't make these up Uh they're not gonna represent a satisfaction to a lot of people

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Carol Stoughton 2:15:41

Carol Stoughton I'm not here to douse this project but how are they gonna travel Are they gonna be traveling on Palm Coast Parkway And Bel Air Parkway and how are the materials going to get into the plant to make the concrete besides sand That's another company and more trucks coming in to help make their cement Also is there gonna be storage of gasoline out there for their trucks and will that be a worry because of the fact that it's out in all the woods And I just wanna know did developers request that they come here Uh I just wanted to know because it sounds like it's another development project because we're gonna have the concrete Thank you Oh and the aquifer I guess they're gonna build a well to supply the water And there's a lot to think about here Uh is it near our aquifer and um Is the fire company gonna be able to help them out there if need be that there is a fire because of maybe storage of gasoline and that's my comment Thank you ma'am mister Yes ma'am

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Renee Hunter 2:16:55

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Good evening My name is Renee Hunter and I'm representing Auto House of Palm Coast located at 15 Hargrove Lane We specialize in German auto repair high-end vehicles I'm here today to oppose the proposed rezoning of the parcels within the light industrial district near Hargrove Grave and Hargrove Lane To a heavy industrial too there is a difference While I support responsible growth this proposal is incompatible with character and function of the existing businesses that are already there This proposal came to you without a recommendation highlighting serious doubts and concerns about its appropriateness for that area Zoning compatibility matters Light industrial one zones are designed for low impact operations small scale manufacturing warehouses and distribution with minimal environmental and infrastructure strain Heavy industrial too by contrast permits high intensity activities like chemical processing large scale manufacturing and operations involving hazardous materials These uses demand significantly more energy more space more infrastructure and often generate noise pollution and traffic that are unsuitable near thriving light industrial one businesses Impact on existing businesses currently zoned light industrial are a network of businesses who have been successful based on the predictability and the compatibility of their environment Introducing heavy industrial 2 to this area would disrupt balance potentially lowering property values and creating operational conflicts and a very real possibility of financial ruin for many

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Jeff Knapp 2:19:59

Hi uh my name is Jeff Knapp I am the owner of Encompass Enclosures the screen enclosure company that's been serving Palm Coast and the Flagler County for over 20 years Uh we're located at 15 Hargrove Lane Unit 60 and C We've been there since 2014 Uh my fellow business owners here tonight will lay out many reasons why this rezoning will have a negative impact on our businesses all of which I share with them but I would like to use my 3 minutes to point out the negative impact this proposal will have on the city itself in specific in the area of pollution This is a rezoning Concrete plant is one thing but that concrete plant can go away and anything else can come in its place The purpose of industrial two as defined by Chapter 3 section 3.03.01D in the Palm Coast Land Development Code states The purpose of industrial 2 heavy industrial district is to permit a wide range of intensive industrial uses which include but are not limited to those that are a major users of water produce great amounts of hazardous and regulated waste storage of significant amounts of chemicals produce air emissions or substantially impact the landscape through mining and soil extraction This district This district utilizes performance standards to ensure the impacts are controlled to protect public health and safety and welfare

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Andrea 2:23:14

Good evening My name is Andrea and I am located in the Hargrove at 15 Hargrove Lane as well Unit 1G We are a small company and we do employ many locally um employed here I am here tonight to speak in opposition to the proposed rezoning not so much as a concrete plant but the rezoning of the industrial park Um this shift would represent a substantial escalation in the intensity of use and it introduces serious concerns regarding compatibility with the surrounding existing community As we all know light one zoning was established years ago with a focus on low-impact operations those that minimize noise vibrations and hazardous materials The light warehousing and industrial have minimal offset impacts In contrast the heavy-2 industrial would allow for a wider range of more intense uses including those that may have a greater potential for environmental impact such as heavier activities heavier equipment larger trucks chemical processes the airborne particulates all of which pose real risks to the nearby residents and businesses Studies have shown that prolonged exposure to the vibrations from heavy truck traffic can damage infrastructure reduce property values and impact human health The introduction of volatile chemicals and particulates further compounds these concerns threatening air quality and creating long-term environmental consequences This is not a case of gradual industrial growth It's an abrupt intensification with incompatible effects We all at Hargrove agree about the importance of industry The determination of whether heavy or light industrial is appropriate for an area is refined in zoning map based on potential impact on surrounded lands This shift in zoning would impact our established businesses We urge you to protect our community's safety health and our livability by maintaining the current zoning in all of Hargrove and rejecting this and any other proposal to change to heavy industrial too Thank you Thank you ma'am

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Jason Pavlo 2:25:17

Hi good evening My name is Jason Pavlo I'm a business owner in Hargrove Uh I've been there 10 years now I'm in the swimming pool industry and that obviously includes concrete and water So I'm very familiar with this whole topic in that in that sense Um the traffic that's involved with moving concrete is immense Their own picture that was illustrated up here showed our little cul-de-sac Completely full of cars Literally full of cars And there's you know we're talking about the business owners the employees everybody who's impacted by this potential project and nothing against the concrete plant Matter of fact I've bought concrete from their company before but ultimately it's something that is going to be a detriment to our area and it's not zoned this particular way for a reason And I really really uh oppose changing what we've all purchased for our futures our employees' futures Everything that we've worked for is and was basically set up on the premise of how this is zoned We all want more for our community Um we appreciate businesses Everybody you know uses concrete So it it really doesn't have anything to do with them It has to do with everything else that that the rezoning is going to bring Um behind concrete trucks trying to leave Has anybody ever been stuck behind a concrete truck I mean you know there is debris coming off of there There's hydraulic spills there's oils all the the you know they're going to wash it down every day Where does that hydraulic fluid go Where does that oil go Where does that fuel go Um you have concrete dust You can do every study in the world that concrete falls off it dries it produces dust people run over it They get chunks up on their vehicles I mean there's so much involved um with the concrete plant itself but um ultimately this would open the door to many other Negatives as far as I'm concerned with our little community located in Harvard So with that I urge you to not go through with this uh rezoning It's an important scenario There's other parcels of land that could be rezoned away from residents There are residents right on Otis uh Otis Stonehunter I think it is right there uh you know so There's there's a lot of things developing we understand but I urge you to say no to this Thank you sir Thank you

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Brett Snyder 2:28:26

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My name is Brett Snyder I represent my family's business Arctic Breeze Air Conditioning We're at 15 Hargrove We've been in that industrial complex since 2006 We've built there We've uh expanded there uh 4 different times as our business has grown Uh we are probably one of the largest Employers in there employing right about 30 people and uh we are obviously against this traffic-wise the one thing Vice Mayor you've driven down Hargrove Grade you know that that road has been patched many many times It floods all the time when it rains and trying to go further down the dirt road our trucks can't go down that dirt road It rains they get stuck That is not an exit road for us So when we're dealing with uh heavy usage of concrete trucks That are going to be going in and out on the average of what 7 minutes That's a lot of high traffic on roads that look like they need to be repaired In fact there is a chunk of concrete that fell about 4 years ago that we have to drive around every single day so we don't mess up our cars We're dealing with this already Not only am I speaking on behalf of a business in on 15 Hargrove Lane I also own personally 9 Hargrove Lane right across from Saint Joe's Canal and I've already had one TRX review so I'm in the process of putting light industrial units up to about 20 units can be in there If you go on the average of how many people work in the unit where we are we're talking 3 or 4 jobs So in In the area where I'm trying to build I am looking at hopefully 50 jobs That's way more than they're proposing on a much smaller scale and with a lot less environmental damage to our community We do not want to see this high usage trucks coming in and out of our community where We're already struggling with the road as it is trucks that come in and out as it is and just our personal vehicles our work vehicles going in and out of this area It's already difficult as it is dealing with the traffic that is already there especially the higher times of the day that being between 7 and 9 in the morning and roughly between 4 and 6 in the afternoon So we're asking that you please oppose this rezoning Keep it the way that it is designed to be that businesses like ours can come into realize their dreams grow their businesses and feel that the city has their back Thank you Thank you

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Keith Larrett 2:31:18

My name is Keith Larrett I'm the owner of two units at 15 Hargrove Lane that we purchased about 10 years ago We bought into this property because of its curb appeal location and the protections offered by its industrial one zoning Since then our complex has thrived We've maintained an occupancy rate near 100% for the past decade When a unit becomes available it's rented or purchased quickly That tells us something very important The real need in this area isn't for heavy industrial uses it's for more high quality flexible spaces like ours which support a wide range of small and mid-sized businesses The proposed rezoning from industrial 1 to industrial 2 to allow a concrete manufacturing plant puts all of that at risk This one business may promise employment for 20 to 30 people but within our industrial condominium alone there are approximately 30 businesses employing well over 150 people Prioritizing one business at the expense of many others doesn't serve the broader economic interests of the area This rezoning would not only reduce our property values but it would also diminish the viability of a successful and fully utilized light industry industrial hub Worse it would set a precedent We're already seeing another rezoning process for another concrete plant beginning further down the road If this trend continues our industrial condominium will become an island of industrial 1 surrounded by heavier noisier and more disruptive industrial 2 operations Instead of rezoning this property for heavier use let's look at what the data shows Spaces like ours are in demand fully occupied and fostering diverse sustainable employment Keeping this property zoned as industrial one ideally to support a development similar to ours could bring in even more jobs and long-term value to the community I respectfully urge the council to reject this rezoning and protect the integrity of the existing industrial landscape Thank you Thank you sir

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Ken Moscone 2:33:41

Good evening My name is Ken Moscone I've been a business owner here in Flatwood County since 2008 purchasing my unit over at 15 Hargrove Lane back in 2019 I I selected that area because it was light industrial that coincided with my business I own an insurance agency It's right next door to Auto house who repairs luxury automobiles So kind of go hand in hand as do a lot of the businesses there I did print this out I was gonna really kind of focus on You know the aspect of getting in and out of there I I tried going down that dirt road It took me 20 minutes to get from my office back to Palm Coast Parkway which is where I was trying to go Just to kind of see what it was like I think I lost a couple of feelings driving through there because the rattling I was in a Jeep uh Wrangler I mean it's designed to be off-road None of my customers would ever have to go back there Would they would never drive back there in the event of an emergency or anything like that It's already difficult at times to get past the exit of Hargrove So if you look at the first picture that I printed out That is the main way in and out As big trucks that have to go back there have to cross the southbound lane of US One It creates a bottleneck there right now without you know the amount of truck that not only this plant but whatever else is gonna be rezoned as industrial too over there cause as uh the speaker before me mentioned there's already uh an application to get that one rezoned There's a lot of undeveloped land over there And I just did a quick search after somebody said well it's already there Actually you know I pulled up the property appraiser site for The 4 buildings that are south Nothing is known that And it's a pretty you know pretty simple Pretty simple So either they're operating In an area where they're not intended to or something's going on because that If you take um 71 which is Sun Belt Just to go back to somebody's question of how long it's been there The building was built in 1980 And the zoning for it is light manufacturing You go to the next one which is that

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Steve Parish 2:36:58

Good evening and thanks for being here I'm Steve Parish I'm Hargrove uh Lane as well Unit 1A I'm also on the board of directors of Palm Coast Commercial Industrial Center I represent the owners of 68 units in the industrial center All the folks who have spoken tonight including myself we're not used to doing this and we all feel so strongly about the rezoning that we're here Were carpenters cabinet builders AC companies custom woodworkers electricians auto mechanics pool builders landscapers bakers window tinters there's even a church in the back there that was put in there when it was built We're a group of small businesses Um that collectively employ from 120 to 150 people We are the American dream We've spent 20 years building our businesses We all bought into this light industrial area one of the few in Palm Coast We follow the rules with our trees and our grassy islands that take up our parking spots We always keep it maintained and presentable We didn't buy in the other areas out in the county zoned industrial tool so we didn't want that We wanted shops that were inviting to our clientele The people have spoke already and like see after me brought up all the points that make the change of zoning detrimental to our businesses the infrastructure the roadways the water use the air quality the noise and most important setting the precedent to change more of the surrounding properties to industrial too That opens the door for a huge change in the area And what else is included industrial too from junkyards to adult entertainment I see in the paper We didn't buy next to a landfill and complain about the smell Quite the opposite We built our businesses our livelihoods over the last 15 to 20 years in this area The proposed plant on 36 acres is not only a burden to the infrastructure but will only employ about 40 people which I found out is less some of which will be brought in from outside the community We're 26 acres with about 30 established businesses like Keith said Who we employ 120 people who live in our community We all agree about the need for more industry but please don't hurt the industry we already have Turning that land into mixed use over there would benefit the area greatly Maybe employ another 120 people So we hope the council sees the zoning change as detrimental to the surrounding property which is on the criteria list for rejecting Um We appreciate everything you've done and I know some people have gone out and checked out the sites We keep our place spotless That's what we like to have in our city Thank you all Thank you so much

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Jeannie Duarte 2:40:08

Jeannie Duarte uh I'm concerned about the 1 truck per every 10 minutes the weight of the trucks and the noise that that would cause on our and the uh weight on the roadways is just not gonna the roads are not gonna sustain that And the use of unreasonable hazards uh these are actually low paying jobs with high risk health risk to people animals and the environment Um and you use the statement of it's unlike to impose a significant financial liability for the city That statement is unacceptable We already have water usage problems and drainage problems I'm very familiar with Cement plants the particles get airborne the land in the land nearby lands and contaminate our water and land resources You say you have several recipes though you offer only a few organic ingredients Organic doesn't mean safe Organic can be poisonous You claim that you clean your driveways daily and you wash your trucks before they hit the roads Well that admits that your product escapes I was going to suggest banal but I wouldn't want that around our agriculture Thank you Thank you ma'am

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Darlene Shelley 2:41:26

Darlene Shelley K section Palm Coast um like I've said over and over again compatibility matters And will this zone change have a negative effect on the safety health and welfare of the local residents and the local businesses And the folks that they employ The applicant did not mention The number of incoming trucks full of sand and aggregate flatbeds full of pallets of fuel Um or The combined numbers Factoring in all of those Types of operations that are required for A heavy industrial use like a concrete batch plant I just did a a quick AI search Asking If Are there toxic chemicals in concrete And yes during especially during production and handling including batching process can involve several substances that pose health risks and can be considered toxic if proper precautions are not taken Some of the hazardous items which I know from being 35 years in in retail concrete has silica in it Silica is a component of sand Concrete and cement dust silica um if it's inhaled can lead to serious lung diseases uh scarring of the lungs chronic pulmonary disease COPD lung cancer The alkaline components are very hazardous and can cause irritation and chemical burns uh heavy metals chromium And Hex hexavalent chromium Trace amounts may be present in cement due to its impurities and raw materials It's a known carcinogen and can cause uh all kinds of respiratory and asthma This leeches out of the piles of aggregates and sand Whether it's an organic item or not Our water is precious and our aquifer is precious We have two well heads in close proximity to this that may and that's unacceptable be affected by the water drawn from this proposed well It's not necessary It's a threat to the local businesses and residents They're here to tell you that it's a known fact Concrete has toxic chemicals in it Just like airplane emissions have lead in them when they're single piston It's non-negotiable and our water supplies are far too valuable to have them soiled by this

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Darlene Shelley 3:40:09

Darlene Shelley case section I really wish I could give you a presentation on all the information that I've done hundreds of hours of research First of all the FAA does not regulate zoning You do You regulate the zoning for the city airport zoning regulations you have the power you do get to decide you could make your own airport zoning regulations In fact I gave the board um At least Teresa a copy um of a potential airport zoning regulation that would actually protect the safety health and welfare quality of life and the property values the children's health safety and welfare it would prevent the excessive emissions and all the toxic chemicals that come with it

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Jeannie Duarte 4:11:02

Jeannie Duarte there's a lot of issues in this community that are not community driven Uh I am concerned about hiring yet another firm Uh if you wanna know uh ask the community um We don't need another firm Which specific thing are you talking about Mr Katie Talking about the economic development Oh OK Oh Roger got it Thank you ma'am Yes Miss Henry Denise Henry Holco um

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Denise Henry 4:11:33

the only what I mean it's just a question as I was studying through the agenda these um Like 17 piggybacking Sowell state of Minnesota and then I also saw one with Houston I mean it's not mentioned on this paper but I know it said Houston Um so my question is if we're piggybacking onto some contract with that Minnesota has is that what it's saying um then are do we have to follow everything in that contract baseline because that's concerning to me Do do you know what I'm trying to say Probably not Yes ma'am Mr. is that all you have Miss Henry OK we'll try to we'll try to get an answer on that I I can actually answer that So yeah it's a piggyback contract We're limited to what's in that contract However our staff has other stuff in there those contracts when it's out of state that uh those contracts apply to Florida law our sunshine law and then also we make sure that we don't pay any additional taxes or tariffs on those contracts But in a general nutshell we're limited to what that contract is And they've been reviewed to make sure that there's no conflicts or anything sir they're meeting the requirements that we meet Yes sir OK That's uh anything else